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9mm_luger

9mm Luger


Specs:

Bullet diameter9.01 mm (0.355 in)
Neck diameter9.65 mm (0.380 in)
Base diameter9.93 mm (0.391 in)
Rim diameter9.96 mm (0.392 in)
Rim thickness1.27 mm (0.050 in)
Case length19.15 mm (0.754 in)
Overall length29.69 mm (1.169 in)


Chrono data


DateBulletPowderPrimerData
10-06-2022Ares 147gn GBT3.1gn VVN310Ginex SPPchronydata_10062022

My personal loads


PowderWeightBullitWeightPrimerOALSpeedPowerfactorTestresults
VVN3103.1GnAres GBT147GnGynex SPP29.1N/AN/AAccurate, nice, cheap FAVORITE
VVN3203.4GnALSAPRO140GnGynex SPP28.9mmN/AN/AAccurate, nice
VVN3103.8GnALSAPRO124GnS&B SPP28,7mm308m/s min126 minAccurate
VVN3103,8GnLOS RNCP123GnGynex SPP28,3mm313m/s min @ 3,7gnmin. 126 @ 3,7gnVery accurate
Bold BA95.5gnAlsa RNFMJ124GnGynex spp29.0mm320m/s130Great load, stable grouping
Bold BA95.0gnAlsa RNFMJ140GnGynex spp29.0mmN/AN/AGood load


Powder settings


PowderWeightSettingComment
VVN3203.8gn21.8mm9mm 124gn load
Lovex D0324.2gn20.25mm9mm 124gn load MAX
Lovex D0366gn20.25mm9mm 124gn load MIN
Lovex D0366.5gn22.2mm9mm 115gn middle load


Die settings

Seating depthBulletStem measurementCrimp dia
29 mm AOLALSAPRO 124/140gn12.969.65
28 mm AOLALSAPRO 124/140gn11.969.65


Trial loads

Trial loads:

PowderWeightBulletWeightPrimerOALCrimpTest results
N3102.9gnAres147gnGinex29.6mm9.6mmNot tested yet
N3103.0gnAres147gnGinex29.6mm9.6mmNot tested yet
N3103.1gnAres147gnGinex29.6mm9.6mmNot tested yet
PowderWeightBulletWeightPrimerOALCrimpTest results
Lovex D0323.9gnAlsaPro FMJ115gnGinex29.4mm9.6mmNot accurate
Lovex D0324.0gnAlsaPro FMJ115gnGinex29.4mm9.6mmAccurate
Lovex D0324.1gnAlsaPro FMJ115gnGinex29.4mm9.6mmAccurate
Lovex D0324.2gnAlsaPro FMJ115gnGinex29.4mm9.6mmVery accurate
Lovex D0324.3gnAlsaPro FMJ115gnGinex29.4mm9.6mmVery accurate, much recoil
PowderWeightBulletWeightPrimerOALCrimpTest results
Lovex D0366.0gnAlsaPro FMJ115gnGinex29.4mm9.6mmNot tested yet
Lovex D0366.2gnAlsaPro FMJ115gnGinex29.4mm9.6mmNot tested yet
Lovex D0366.4gnAlsaPro FMJ115gnGinex29.4mm9.6mmNot tested yet
Lovex D0366.6gnAlsaPro FMJ115gnGinex29.4mm9.6mmNot tested yet
Lovex D0366.8gnAlsaPro FMJ115gnGinex29.4mm9.6mmNot tested yet

Trial loads made to be tested:

PowderWeightBulletWeightPrimerOALCrimpTest results
Lovex D0323.9gnAlsaPro FMJ124gnGinex29.4mm9.6mmRedelijk accuraat, blijft niet open na laatste
Lovex D0324.2gnAlsaPro FMJ124gnGinex29.4mm9.6mmAccuraat, harde klappen, niet heel relaxed

Volgens QuickLoad is 4gn PF129

Lovex D0366.1gnAlsaPro FMJ124gnGinex29.4mm9.6mmAccuraat, harde klappen

Volgens QuickLoad is 6gn PF128

Lovex D0366.5gnAlsaPro FMJ115gnGinex29.4mm9.6mmAccuraat, harde klappen

Volgens QuickLoad is 6.4gn PF130

VVN3103.8GnLOS RN123GnGinex SPP28mm/1.1“9.6mm/.378”Excellent
VVN3103.9GnLOS RN123GnGinex SPP28mm/1.1“9.6mm/.378”Excellent
Lovex D0364GnAres Green Fullcoat147GnGinex SPP28.9mm9.6mmExcellent accuracy
Lovex D0365.6GnLos CPRN115GnGinex SPP28.9mm9.6mmExcellent accuracy

Tested, but bad

PowderWeightBullitWeightPrimerOALSpeedPowerfactorTestresults
Bold BA94.0gnAlsa RNFMJ140GnS&B SPP29.0mmn/an/aUnreliable in the USP, FTE 8/10
Bold BA94.2gnAlsa RNFMJ140GnS&B SPP29.0mmn/an/aUnreliable in the USP, FTE 6/10
Bold BA94.4gnAlsa RNFMJ140GnS&B SPP29.0mmn/an/aUnreliable in the USP, FTE 3/10
Bold BA94.6gnAlsa RNFMJ140GnS&B SPP29.0mmn/an/aUnreliable in the USP, FTE 2/10
Bold BA94.8gnAlsa RNFMJ140GnS&B SPP29.0mmn/an/aUnreliable in the USP, FTE 1/10
Bold BA94.9gnAlsa RNFMJ140GnS&B SPP29.0mmn/an/aNo FTE
Bold BA95.0gnAlsa RNFMJ140GnS&B SPP29.0mmn/an/aNo FTE
Bold BA95.1gnAlsa RNFMJ140GnS&B SPP29.0mmn/an/aNo FTE
Bold BA95.2gnAlsa RNFMJ140GnS&B SPP29.0mmn/an/aNo FTE
Bold BA95.3gnAlsa RNFMJ140GnS&B SPP29.0mmn/an/aNo FTE


Reliable load with 140gn ALSAPRO and Bold BA9 seems to be 5.0gn.

The OAL was derived by dropping the loaded cart into the barrel. The OAL of 1.15“ was touching the rifling with the ogive of the LOS 123gn bullets, so needed to shorten the OAL to avoid out-of-battery. The crimp was taken from the Wikipedia article stating the CIP dimensions of the case and should be considered a starting point.

The starting load was derived from a forum post of someone stating Vihtavuori Oy had emailed them, saying 3.0gn of N310 is a safe starting point, and the experience of fellow shooters using 3.4gn in their CZ's and Glocks. Main goal is as low recoil as possible, retaining enough cycle energy.


3.4gn start and 3.9gn MAX, 1.122" min COL (28.5mm)

Load prices

BullitPrimerPowderTotal
LOS 0,069Ginex 0,02N310 .0250,114E
ALSA 0.069Murom .025N310 .0250,119E


Powder is 50e/7700gn so 0.006493506E/gn making 3.8gn to be 0.247E

9mm_luger.txt · Last modified: 2022/06/13 14:41 by ton